Posted by Maria Paula on Aug 5th 2025
"In The Books" #12 Podcast Episode: Hope Out of Darkness, a Guide for First Responder Mental Health with Dena Ali
Welcome to this inspiring episode of In the Books Podcast! This week, we sit down with Dena Ali—fire officer, instructor, and author of Hope Out of Darkness: A Guide to First Responder Mental Wellness. Dena brings a powerful and deeply personal perspective to one of the most pressing issues in the fire service: the mental health challenges faced by firefighters and first responders.
Meet the Author: Dena Ali
Dena Ali is a North Carolina fire officer, educator, and mental health advocate whose mission is to break the stigma surrounding behavioral health in the first responder community. Drawing on her own experiences and years of research, she equips firefighters with the tools to understand trauma, build resilience, and foster supportive environments that prioritize mental wellness. Her book, Hope Out of Darkness, is both a guide and a call to action for creating a healthier, more compassionate fire service.
Episode Highlights:
- From Adversity to Advocacy:
Dena shares her personal journey through trauma and the pivotal moments that inspired her to speak openly about mental health in the fire service. - The Power of Vulnerability:
Discover why leaders who embrace vulnerability can create stronger, more trusting crews—and how that openness can save lives. - Resilience as a Skill:
Learn how first responders can develop mental strength, not by avoiding hardship, but by facing it head-on and growing “stronger at the broken places.” - Building a Support Network:
Dena outlines practical steps departments and individuals can take to foster a culture where asking for help is a sign of strength, not weakness. - A Guide for All Ranks:
Whether you’re a rookie firefighter or a chief officer, Hope Out of Darkness offers strategies to navigate the unique stresses of the job and maintain long-term well-being.
How to Tune In!
Don’t miss this must-hear episode! Listen to In the Books to hear Dena Ali’s powerful message of resilience, recovery, and leadership in the face of adversity. You can find the full episode on our website or wherever you get your podcasts.
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